New Map Vote!

I've suggested some maps to Baker instead of 45, since it is a laggy, overused piece of shit.
These are the maps I've suggested.

Rp_city23_night
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=143076340
-Large Plaza
-Hidden-ish Slums

Rp_City8
http://www.garrysmod.org/downloads/?a=view&id=88034
-Huge Plaza
-Smaller Slums

Rp_Venetian_Iconoclasm
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=119692505
-Huge
-Ocean
-No Slums, so rebels gotta be a secret

Rp_City45
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=118759412
-Fairly large slums
-Small Plaza
-Laggy as shit on bad computers

He said he'd make a vote on forums. I did it. Because I can.

Venetian is anything but huge, more mid-size rofl.

Industrial 17 or bust.

Meant as Large, not huge fml. But Venetian is pretty big if you include the ocean.

oh

City 23 Night
Pros
-Nice Plaza area
-Nice catwalk area
-Great spots for rebels to hide-out

Cons
-Map is too big
-Slums is too open and 'in your face'. There is nothing to divide districts really.
-The nexus looks like an old converted town hall. Seriously this apparently 'impenetrable fortress' has WOODEN DOORS at the front.
-Fairly shitty nexus with many design flaws (The CAs office is very open and insecure, lack of rooms)
-Very disorganised, random rooms everywhere.
-Where is the RDT? Or anywhere we can use for an RDT?

Me and Wolfy gave a: 
3/10

There are too many inconsistencies and we agreed that although there are some nice features there are also many things which don't seem to be present and also many problems. No votes for this map anyway

City 08
Pros
-The setting being Japan makes things a little interesting. Very nice map design and very detailed.
-Nice little plaza area I guess by the main train station you spawn at.
-Fairly decent size, there are also a few little hidden places which is perfect for us to explore.
-Great RDT, nothing too fancy but still very nice.
-Nexus is pretty good, dispatch/CA broadcasts are quite good. There is even a welcome message which can all be done from the nexus directly. The Nexus also has an awesome JW button!
-Could utilise City 08 jumpsuits and also the model from the MPF pack.

Cons
-Almost hidden UCH, even when you find it it isn't that amazing honestly.
-The map can get a little complicated and would take a while to get used to.
-Seems to be a pointless bridge. Kinda disorganised but also it is hard to find the nexus even.
-CWU is very small and not secure at all. Being small it makes it also impossible to find.
-Nexus may be seen as too small.
-Events might be difficult sometimes.
-Not many people use this map.

Overall we would give a:
5/10   

The map is actually very good and I must give a 'well done' to the creators but I don't really think it is for us. The nexus is a main aspect of HL2RP and very important so the good things must balance out the bad things and unfortunately they don't. There are no rooms for training, med-bay, Grid Workshop and many other great rooms. The detainment area is actually pretty awesome though (it looks like a prison sorta). One reason why 'not many people use this map' is a con is because...well...maybe there's a reason for that? The map is one of the most searched for maps but is it one of the most used. There must be a flaw which we would probably later find out.


Venetian Iconoclasm
Pros
-The fish actually attack you in the water which is cool I guess.
-Quite well designed to replicate what Venice actually looks like.
-Fairly big.

Cons
-The map name is actually a con in my opinion, maybe not for you, but it is for me. I would prefer it if they had just set it in Venice and made up random numbers to call the city like "City 82" but otherwise the name really doesn't appeal and might not for other people.
-There are no massive city walls. I know that it is impossible for citizens to escape anyway but it just seems like it's not really relative to HL2.
-No blatantly obvious buildings such as the Nexus, RDT and UCH. Maybe it was just me but I think they were a little hidden.
-Too big I would say.
-This is a big con which affected City 8's rating too. The map is NEVER used, at least not for HL2RP anyway.

We give a:
2/10

Maybe this is just a personal opinion for me and Wolfy but you are welcome to check it out yourself. We really just think that it deserves the above rating relative to HL2 AND our server. It would definitely not attract players in my opinion...

City 45
Pros
-Great spawn. Typical train-station as it should be.
-RDT is amazing. It has a good queuing system, a control room to open doors and to announce the availability of rations and two detainment cells in the back for the 'troublemakers' in the queue. There are two questioning/interrogation rooms also and an amputation room. The RDT has a catwalks which connects to the UCH.
-The UCH is also very good. The catwalks which come from the RDT go in through the roof into a control room where the UCH doors can be directly locked from that room! The UCH is also a perfect size for us.
-The Nexus is excellent. There are at least 4 floors I think and maybe 5 including the bottom floor (underground floor -1). There are good training facilities, rooms which could be used for offices, meeting rooms, there's a shooting range, good break-room area, good detainment/amputation area, acid pit and many other things including a button which directly locks the hardpoint access to Industrial District 6 (The Slums)
-Plaza area is great. It is definitely bigger than the C18 one and we can establish patrol routines easily and have some awesome passive there.
-There are hidden ways to get into the Slums other than the hardpoint. 
-The Slums is amazing, great areas to set up a small area to sleep and eat. Canals are awesome and every other building in The Slums.
-Overall great map design and feel. The city is set in London I have heard.

Cons
-Map could actually be considered too big, I would say that we could block areas off and we would still be okay for our playerbase (we average 20+ a day now).
-Could be too laggy? I'm not sure as I have never experienced lag on it and not heard of anyone else who has apart from Walter.
-Apparently overused, I don't see many servers with this map but I will put it down as a con still.

We gave an:
8/10

We love this map and many others do too! It also has the most votes. Amazing Nexus with great facilities, great RDT, UCH and all of the other buildings. Some places can and probably will be blocked off with rubble or something we could use. The whole feel to the map whatever you RP as is just awesome. As for the 'this map is overused' statement. I would disagree. I wouldn't say that this is a rare map to find on HL2RP but maybe that's a good thing? Remember that we want something that people like (check) and that is already used a fair amount (check). It is a fresh new map with a fresh new start. Unless anyone has any objections for any major reason like they have found a new map then we will be using City 45, we will change on Saturday most likely.

These reviews still seem very biased. And where is Industrial 17?

Eh, you know...some opinions, some facts. Industrial 17 is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too big.

There is no such things as a map being too big. In my eyes, the bigger the better. You're in a city, thats why I prefer really prefer maps like Industrial.

They make you feel like you're...IN A CITY, and not some cramped up blocky...shithole.


Most of the time. Small servers actually realise that bigger is better, and move too maps like Industrial than actually benefit from it.

Remember, your server needs too stand out. And that's another pro that Industrial offers.

idk. industrial I guess sounds fine, city 45 or industrial or riot.

Okay I'll check out Industrial then before making it conclusive.

Okay I'll check out Industrial then before making it conclusive.

Think we could make City 45 day time that way it is nice and bright instead of wandering around in the dark?

Yeah, there's a map called City45_2013 ._.

Wanna know what would be cool??? If a good map was chosen.

Walter the Spanish Nun wrote:Wanna know what would be cool??? If a good map was chosen.

What do you have in mind?

The maps I suggested. Any one of em, but Baker wants to analy penetrate city 45 so prob won't happen

The maps you suggested were a pile of cow dung (apart from 45).

ANYWAY. C17 Indust is a possibility.

Baker wrote:The maps you suggested were a pile of cow dung (apart from 23,8,venetian)

ANYWAY. C17 Indust is a possibility.

Fixed

Right. If you all want it then vote for it. This is a community based decision and at the moment the majority who have voted have chosen C45.

The problem is, this vote is now flawed. Industral 17 was added at late date when everyone thought that C45 was the best map on there.

This means a revote is going to have to be done if you want it to be a fair vote.

Maybe we just say in chat.

I change my vote from City 45 to City 17

Alright. NEW THREAD.